Pre-owned watches trade across a wide condition spectrum. These ranges are typical for the secondary market.
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The Patrimony Self-Winding with perpetual calendar uses the ultra-thin 2450 caliber in a 41mm gold case; secondary prices reflect extreme thinness, complications density, and the Hallmark of Geneva certification.
Editorial estimate, 2026 Q2. Actual prices vary by condition, date, and box/papers status.
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The peripheral micro-rotor is the defining Cal. 2450 Q6/3 feature; it must be visible integrated into the movement plate, not sitting above it.
| Area | What to check | What is correct | Red flag |
|---|---|---|---|
| caseback | Peripheral micro-rotor integration | Rotor integrated flush into the movement plate at the periphery; movement appears unusually thin; no conventional rotor sitting above bridges | Conventional rotor sitting above the movement; caseback showing standard automatic architecture |
| dial | Perpetual calendar aperture synchronization | Day, date, month, and year apertures all synchronized correctly; year display showing correct leap year cycle | Any aperture out of sync with the others; year display incorrect; perpetual calendar advancing on wrong days |
| case | Ultra-thin profile | Case height consistent with ultra-thin specification; overall proportions correct for the 40mm diameter | Case height inconsistent with ultra-thin specification, indicating a different movement installed |
The Patrimony 85180 is VC's definitive ultra-thin automatic dress watch. Its entire identity rests on case thinness, visual restraint, and finishing quality. Any non-original component stands out immediately because there is nowhere on the dial to hide it.