Longines

Presence 38mm

Name: Longines Presence 38mm L4.805.4.12.2
Brand: Longines
SKU: L4.805.4.12.2

Ref. L4.805.4.12.2

2014–present · 38mm · caliber Longines Cal. L595: ETA 2895-1 base, 28,800bph, 42h PR; used in Presence; clean three-hand automatic with seconds at 6 o'clock; no date version available

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Mid-tier supplier movement · caliber Longines Cal. L595: ETA 2895-1 base, 28,800bph, 42h PR; used in Presence; clean three-hand automatic with seconds at 6 o'clock; no date version available · 42h power reserve

Versatile size: fits most wrists (6–7.5 in / 15–19 cm)

38 mm case. The sweet spot for the broadest range of wrist sizes. Neither too dainty nor too bold.

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Authentication

High counterfeit volume for this entry-level reference; the winged-hourglass logo on the dial is the primary authentication point.

Known issues in the market

Longines winged-hourglass logo has blurred or malformed wings; this is the most reliable tell on a counterfeit Presence.
Dial text typography does not match Longines specification; counterfeiters approximate but cannot match the exact font and spacing.
Movement visible through caseback is not Longines-finished; counterfeit examples use generic movements without Longines finishing.

Area	What to check	What is correct	Red flag
dial	Winged-hourglass logo precision	Logo wings are sharp and correctly proportioned; hourglass center is symmetric; logo is centered above the brand name	Blurred or softened wing tips; asymmetric hourglass; logo that is slightly off-center or inconsistently positioned relative to the brand name text
dial	Typography and text layout	All text matches Longines font specification exactly; "LONGINES" and "SWISS MADE" text is crisp at any magnification	Text that blurs under a loupe; font spacing or weight that does not match Longines specification; any additional text not present on genuine examples
movement	Longines movement finishing through caseback	Longines-finished movement with rotor, bridges, and finishing consistent with the Cal. L888 specification	Generic unfinished movement; movement without Longines markings; rotor with no Longines insignia

Common legitimate replacements

Straps on the Presence are the most commonly replaced component; originals are signed.
Crystal replacements on this price-tier reference may use mineral glass instead of sapphire; verify crystal hardness with a scratch test if provenance is unknown.

Expert resources: Longines.com Presence documentation for logo and dial specification. WatchUSeek Longines subforum for counterfeit identification and logo comparison images.

Authentication guide

Last reviewed June 2026

The Presence 38 is a pure dress watch: small seconds at 6, no date, thin case at 9.3mm. The L595 (ETA 2895-1 base) is a reliable dress caliber. Low reproduction risk; verify exhibition caseback movement.

Known reproduction risks

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The Presence is a budget-accessible dress watch with no reproduction risk. The main concern on pre-owned examples is dial swaps from other Longines references.

Date window where there should be none
Sport-style hands instead of dauphine or baton
Applied indices replaced with printed after service

Dial variants by era

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Era	Description	Identifiers
2014 to present	Clean dress dial with small seconds at 6, no date, applied indices	Silver, black, or white dial with applied baton or dauphine indices Small seconds subdial at 6 o'clock No date complication (date version is a different reference) Applied Longines signature 38mm round case, 9.3mm thin Exhibition or solid caseback options

Service part flags

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Dial

Original: Clean dress dial without date aperture; any date window means a different reference or dial swap

Replacement tells

Date window present on a no-date reference
Small seconds at wrong position (should be at 6)
Printed indices replacing applied

Hands

Original: Dauphine or baton hands appropriate to the dress category; matched finish

Replacement tells

Sword or thick sport-style hands are wrong for Presence
Mismatched finishing between hour, minute, and seconds hands

Case back markings

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2014 to present

Exhibition caseback (some variants) showing L595 movement with Geneva stripes
Caseback rim: reference L4.805.4.12.2, 30M water resistance
Cal. L595 on movement plate or visible through exhibition caseback

Movement tells

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The L595 (ETA 2895-1 base) runs at 28,800 bph; a timing machine confirms this and distinguishes from an incorrectly replaced movement.
Power reserve is 42 hours; modest but adequate. A watch consistently running under 36 hours needs mainspring inspection.
Hacking seconds at crown position 2 should work cleanly.
The small-seconds subdial should tick once per second with no slippage or erratic advance; any irregular beat in the subdial hand suggests a loose cannon pinion.
The 9.3mm case height is achieved with a dress-grade movement height; any case thicker than this suggests a case or movement substitution.

Sources: Monochrome — Longines Presence review; Worn & Wound — Presence 38mm review.

Ref. 1-65-01-22-12-30

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Authentication

High counterfeit volume for this entry-level reference; the winged-hourglass logo on the dial is the primary authentication point.

Known issues in the market

Longines winged-hourglass logo has blurred or malformed wings; this is the most reliable tell on a counterfeit Presence.
Dial text typography does not match Longines specification; counterfeiters approximate but cannot match the exact font and spacing.
Movement visible through caseback is not Longines-finished; counterfeit examples use generic movements without Longines finishing.

Area	What to check	What is correct	Red flag
dial	Winged-hourglass logo precision	Logo wings are sharp and correctly proportioned; hourglass center is symmetric; logo is centered above the brand name	Blurred or softened wing tips; asymmetric hourglass; logo that is slightly off-center or inconsistently positioned relative to the brand name text
dial	Typography and text layout	All text matches Longines font specification exactly; "LONGINES" and "SWISS MADE" text is crisp at any magnification	Text that blurs under a loupe; font spacing or weight that does not match Longines specification; any additional text not present on genuine examples
movement	Longines movement finishing through caseback	Longines-finished movement with rotor, bridges, and finishing consistent with the Cal. L888 specification	Generic unfinished movement; movement without Longines markings; rotor with no Longines insignia

Common legitimate replacements

Straps on the Presence are the most commonly replaced component; originals are signed.
Crystal replacements on this price-tier reference may use mineral glass instead of sapphire; verify crystal hardness with a scratch test if provenance is unknown.

Expert resources: Longines.com Presence documentation for logo and dial specification. WatchUSeek Longines subforum for counterfeit identification and logo comparison images.

Era

Description

Identifiers

2014 to present

Clean dress dial with small seconds at 6, no date, applied indices

Silver, black, or white dial with applied baton or dauphine indices
Small seconds subdial at 6 o'clock
No date complication (date version is a different reference)
Applied Longines signature
38mm round case, 9.3mm thin
Exhibition or solid caseback options

Presence 38mm