Condition affects price
Pre-owned watches trade across a wide condition spectrum. These ranges are typical for the secondary market.
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Market price
The Presage Cocktail Time series offers genuine Japanese automatic finishing at a price point that consistently attracts buyers; used examples trade slightly below retail, making them good value.
Editorial estimate, 2026 Q2. Actual prices vary by condition, date, and box/papers status.
Also uses Seiko Cal. 4R35
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Authentication
Low counterfeit risk; primary concern is dial colour and texture authenticity on grey-market examples.
- Dial texture on fakes appears flat and uniform rather than showing the layered depth of the genuine Cocktail Time dial.
- Applied hour markers on fakes are silver-toned rather than gold-toned, or lume fill is missing.
- Grey-market examples with replaced dials from non-matching Presage references (wrong color or pattern).
- Exhibition caseback not showing Cal. 4R35 (movement swaps from other Seiko budget lines).
| Area | What to check | What is correct | Red flag |
|---|---|---|---|
| dial | Blue textured cocktail dial | Dial has a layered, textured appearance intended to evoke a cocktail drink; color shifts slightly under different light angles; texture is visible under loupe as a three-dimensional surface | Flat uniformly painted blue dial without texture; no color shift under changing light; dial that appears to be a decal rather than a constructed surface |
| hands | Applied hour markers with gold tone and lume | Hour markers are applied (raised), gold-toned, and contain lume fill; markers are evenly spaced and at consistent height; hands are also gold-toned with lume strips | Silver-toned markers on a claimed gold-marker variant; lume fill missing or inconsistent; markers that are printed rather than applied |
| caseback | Exhibition caseback showing Cal. 4R35 | Cal. 4R35 visible through exhibition caseback; Presage and Cocktail Time designations engraved on caseback exterior; movement runs at 21,600bph | Movement is not 4R35; caseback engraving absent or generically engraved; movement plate architecture differs from 4R35 |
| case | Case shape and finishing | Round case with polished and brushed surface contrast; case diameter approximately 40.5mm; Seiko logo on crown; crown is push-and-pull style | Fully polished or fully brushed case (should show contrast finishing); crown without Seiko logo; case diameter significantly different |
- Leather straps are commonly replaced; original Seiko strap should carry Seiko markings on the underside.
- Exhibition caseback gaskets may need replacement after opening for service.
Authentication guide
The SRPE17 "Mockingbird" has a silver-white textured dial inspired by a cocktail glass. Cal. 4R35 is the date-only variant of the 4R36. The textured dial surface is the authentication anchor: it should show dimensional depth under magnification, not a printed flat texture.





